More pictures. . .

PLEASE NOTE:

The man in the photo above, in the red shirt with the notepad, was NOT part of the protest.

Posting photos of protesters is fair game. I'm sure they'll stand by their views, just as people who oppose them stand by theirs. But Washington/NYC/Philly people posting these photos (since all those cities were represented): PLEASE DO NOT MISLEAD PEOPLE.

Also, if it's being posted in the impression that he reported what was being reported above, that's just wrong, so DON'T SLANDER WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.

Dodhare ji,

Don't act based on your wild speculations. That said I totally agree that you guys' exercise of freedom should be duely respected. I do.

The text of the report (which I received from a different source ), although not written in a respectful language, does provide some interesting information about the rally and the organizers. Let's consume it with a pinch of salt and move on. Shall we ?

I would give space of this thread to those rallying in support of the royal coup for celebrating such a rare and good news from DC (I was thinking to post the news of yet another round of pro-democracy lobbying by prominent leaders and intellectuals of Nepali Dispora at the Capitol Hill the other day, I will now withheld that.)

However, I would say this much. The announcement message of the rally circulated by NepalHorizons did spectacularly showed sense of guilt and inferiority and lack of self-esteem of the organizers. There was absolutely no sense of pride in supporting what King is doing and the message almost reads like for a protest rally against the King's decision to suspend democracy and rights in Nepal. No wonder some people were reportedly misled only to be surprised to hear "Hamro Raja Hamro Desh, Pran Bhanda Pyaro Chha" at the rally.

Other than that, thanks for posting the picture of two of my dear sahityakar friends, Homraj ji and Hemanta ji. राजनैतिक ध्रुविकरणको बाढीमा हेमन्तजी र हामीहरु नदीका अलग अलग किनारामा पुगेपनि बाढी थामिएपछि एक अर्काका नैतिक घाउहरु सुम्सुम्याउदै पुनर्निर्माणमा कलमहरु एकै ठाउँमा जुटाउने नै छौं ।

Yastai ho sathi ho,

Bihari Rajniti Amrikama ni rahichha.

Sangai pariyechha la post garnalaai.

But the Comrade Journalist should understand first the real meaning of the nice word: "मण्डल"

Dodhare wrote:
"ती महासयको लेख पढ्यौ, अब अनुहार पनि हेरौ।"

Just in case I was not clear in my reply to Dodhare above. Dodhare seems to be implying that the gentleman in red shirt might have written the report that I posted above. Let it be clear that he has nothing to do with the "report" I originally posted.

Nepe

अनि मैले post नगरेर यो thread को मज्जा नबिगारुँ भनेको खबर त अर्कै महोदयले post गरिसक्नु भएछ ...

- http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=20428

And before anybody makes speculation about my unhappiness with the "success " of the rally, let me put my view. If this rally proves anything then it is the absurdity of Nepali Constitutional Monarcy, which some of our "liberal democrats" are still holding onto, surprisingly.

Heloooooooooooooooooooooo, can you hear me now?????

Nepe Brother...... looks like you don't want to go to Nepal... Keep protesting my friend, timi jasto PhD (player?s hater?s degree) vako dherai manchey haru against ma chainan. You don't want peace and stability in Nepal, if you were than the first thing you would be saying is why there is no peace in Nepal? What did your politicians do for so many years? fight amongst each other and Nepal band every other day, but no one wanted to bring peace and Maoist on the table, but kept on complaining how their party was not the ruling party, dude I am for the people not any party, I want the regular Nepalese who don?t have friends in high places to take bribe have something to be proud of and get those opportunities like everyone else. Nepal made progress in 12 years; yes, we did, but to what extent? Niyalera hera na!!! It?s like a black people with bling to show off but no place to sleep and put gas in their SUV?s.
Dude I was at the rally do you have anything to say? There were more people on Sunday who wanted peace in Nepal than the people who came to protest a week ago. I think that gives you an idea how many people support the kings move and how many don't. I would have gone to the rally if Deuba had tried to do something, maybe Girija, or Madhav Nepal or whoever, if and only if they would bring peace ( but looking at the situation none of the politicians want that). Nepe, can you elaborate what have you done for Nepal? Don?t tell me you have an NGO. Because that is not going to cut it. I want to hear real stories of significant changes that you did.
Last but not least, all the people who were at the rally were not for the king but for peace and stability in Nepal. You keep on yapping about king and his moves; you might not have to buy plane tickets to Nepal forever. 2 ways, either there will not be a democratic Nepal because of communism or there will be not be a country named Nepal but a state of India, you have your choices, because all your politicians are pro Indian?s, they would rather speak Hindi than English, they rather sell Nepal?s property and independence to India (like subash ghising who only took hill council but not a state for some money). All I am saying is what good did your PhD do to us Nepali. You don?t live there you don?t teach there, you don?t research there ( can we hear some from your side), what have you ever done to be so pissed?
Don?t ask what the country can do for you----but what you can do for the country.

This is dude who wrote that in nepali that Nepe posted.... herdai communist hola jasto cha....

Nepe,
The author of your posting lists names of different people in the rally but does not have the balls to post his own name? Your news should be deleted if the author is not ready to post his name too but only wants to slander the name of other people.

THANK you saroj,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I had missed that part.

24 million Nepalis with DIVERSE views and various political orientations, YET how
dare some of them in America actually think and act DIFFERENTLY from Nepe to
the point of causing him "disappointment" (which presumably further made him, and I can't bear to think of this, unhappy) through their personal/public conduct?

What were these people thinking? Who made this this free to do as they please even when other Nepalis disagree with them?

Couldn't they have first paused to check with Nepe re: what to do and what not to do?

Didn't anyone tell them that to publicly disappoint Nepe is to look forward to be thrown headlong and naked into a tub full of boiling mustard oil in hell?

I can't believe the sheer arrogance, not to mention, ignorance of some of these
people at that rally!!

Now that Nepe has found it "informative to know the names of [these] compatriots", I hope he takes some serious actions against them, and whips them on each of their rear end with a thick korra made up of a horse's tail.

Thank God that on Sajha we have Nepe who brings us news -- so what even if the
news was a piece of tabloid junk from anonymous sources? -- so that the rest of us
can refrain from committing acts that may, again, "disappoint" Nepe.

With Nepe around, we are all allowed to think and act differently -- as long as our views agree with his.

oohi
ashu

Gorkhali-x well said...

Nepe ji...Hajur ko Najar ma jo koi le Nepal ma bigat 14 barsa ma udayeka lootera haru ko bhorodh garchan ti sabai jana raja ka chamcha wa Mandale bhaye haina ta....?

Khai hajur afno barema ni lekhnu hoos na hau... Kata re ? Trichandra haina ta hajur padnu bhayeko ? Ani aja po thaha bho Phd. hunu hudo rahecha.. Ani hajur chai Amrica kasari aunu bho ni.. Hajur ko kura anusar sabai nai ek na arko tarika bata Bhagerai ayeka hun.. Tara hajur kasari aunu bhayeko ho,,, khai bhanam na Sajha ma..

Lau mero sunnuhos ma kasari aye america... Ma ni bhagerai ho .. Sutta India pase ani Hiddai Hiddai Bombay puge, ani Hinda mahasagar bata paudina suru gareko, paudida paudidai Prasanta Mahasagar ai puge.. Malai thyammai 3 barsa lagyo ni.. Aba pathyaunu huncha bhane maile chai Samundra ma macha marera pakayera ni khayeko.. Bujhnu bho ta ma kasari ayeko.. Bhagera bhane ni bho paudera bhane ni bho...

I can't believe this man.. He think he is everything with his PhD.. He got no eyes to see, no heart to feel, he knows just whatever written in his book but Rest of other NADA.. ..I assume he used to be democratic profiteer with hooks and crooks with some Moron Neta Back in Nepal (how much did you make from your NGO so far)..He is bashing because his days are gone I guess..

Here is tips for you Nepe.. Since you are so fraustrated with those who support King's Move, you may think about joining Maoist.. They have opening I guess , to replace Baburam. They are in dire need of PhD murkha like you. Yeso santi dekhi naskne manche Sajha ma achakali garnu bhanda Nepal mai gayera Antanka failauna baru, hudaina ?

X-gorkhali wrote:
Dude I was at the rally do you have anything to say?

Nope. Just don't chant "Shree paanch Maharaj ko Jay" and in the same breath claim "I am for the people not any party".

Oh well, I don't care, do whatever you like.

And if you have problem with someone's look or have particular interest to force false accusations, have guts to say that at his face. You don't live very far away, I suppose.


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Saroj,

Alright, I could have chosen not to post that stuff. So if some crime has been commited, I am the guilty party actually. If you are not happy with what I did, let me know.

Basically, as I said, with a pinch of salt, of course, I thought the material is still readable in an anonymous ("ball"-less) forum like Sajha.

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Ashu,

Kaam paayena ? I am sure you have better things to do than jumping like a child on my expressing some personal 'disappointment' with some of my personal friends' political judgement on certain things.

You aren't saying it was an inapropriate act on my part, or are you ?

Should I be checking with you first before I express my feelings in Sajha forum, then ?

As for 'informative report', what's your problem ? I still think, assuming there are no factual errors in it except for the language of a particular taste, readers can see where some of these guys are coming from.

And as for the absurdity of the constituional monarchy in Nepal, I stand by it. You did not ask for it, but I thought of reminding it anyway.

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Pieces,

14 barsa ko loot is the continuation of previous 30 barsha ko loot. I think that is where our views differ. Otherwise we are in the same boat.

My utmost appreciations to Nepeji for being bold enough to hold your head high against the tyrannical rule in Nepal. Many so called Nepali intellects have thrown their ideology and democratic values in garbage in the anticipation that they can reap reward from the autocratic regime. These cunningly selfish, hypocratic and double standard people deserve every kind of bashings from the truly democratic community. No wonder they will change the flank and try to infiltrate in democratic circle once Gyane is forced to give up his stupid ambitions.
For the time being, do not ever feel isolated. I am here to support your campaign against tyranny. The 'mandalays' have every right to support their 'pran bhanda pyaro raja'. But they should be kicked in their ass if they try to change their colour when a new political scenario emerges. Take note of this selfish bunch now, we should throttle their neck if they try to infiltrate. These thugs are as responsible as corrupt politicians for the failure of multi party system in Nepal. Pure democracy is yet to come and we should be longing for that.

Nepe, what makes your anonymous author think it's right for him to write others names in a public forum while he is himself in hiding? This is a propaganda against people that he does not like. I don't see any validity of his writing unless you stand behind it and verify that's true.

Newuser, maybe this is for another thread and has been discussed numerous times in other threads that the fact is that Nepal is not ready for democracy. What better alternative can you outline for nepal right now? I see a lot of people thesedays parroting the word democracy like it's the answer to everything. It would be if there was a foundation in Nepal for democracy. We have seen how democracy works in nepal. Just because someone is willing to wait and see how things get under the king does not make them a mandaley. It is a conceited and retarded mentality to call other mandaley simply because they have hope, and all you have is so much bitter disdain and repugnance that you are blindly against this move. Outline some scenarios on what you are proclaiming is the great panacea for Nepal. Ok let's say King G walks out. What then? What are you blabbering about on how to get Nepal on track minus the corruption minus the maoists. How?

Mr Nepe,
If you can't name the source, then it becomes plagiarism. When you are criticizing an individual, it becomes personal attack, which supposedly wasn?t allowed in Sajha. But apparently this rule doesn?t apply to distinguished person like you.
I went to the rally to support king?s takeover to control Maoist terrorism. I didn?t go there to support king G?s dictatorship. I went there because I want peace in my country so I support King G?s move.
This situation never have happened, it did because of corrupt Neta?s like Girija, Makune and 95% of other elected samsads. Maoist terrorism started because of these corrupt political parties not because of King. King B. was beloved by country when Maoist terrorism started.

Now people like you don't want King G. to succeed, because king G. is taking steps to fix what you have destroyed, and that would make you look like an idiot.

We are supporting king G. doesn?t mean we will accept his dictatorship. If he becomes a dictator, we will kick his A.$$$.

Sarojji
Having known your unassailable faith on King Gyanendra, I did not want to debate with you in this matter. But as you have specifically pulled me into the fray, let me ask you few questions:

Who are you to say that Nepal is not ready for democracy? When does it becomes ready??

'It would be if there was a foundation in Nepal for democracy.'
What is the foundation for democracy?
What do you know about democracy and how it works??

Banning fundamental cicil liberties, curtainling press freedom, blocking access to independent people to war zones, restricting national human rights commission to investigate HR abuse, blocking non-political intellectuals from travelling abroad. Are these all the foundations for democracy?
You people have a crap mentality. You enjoy democracy and freedom in the west and advocate for tyranny in your own country. Isn't this a shame?

If you are not a mandalay, you don't have to defend my allegations which are meant to those who shout 'hamro raja hamro desh pran bhanda pyaro chha' slogans and pray on the king and queen photographs.

You can hope. But I don't have a tiny dot of hope from this 'mandaly ko raja'. I believe on comoners and children of comoners ruling the nation. General people make mistakes and learn from their mistakes.Always sooner or later. Those who are inheritered with power always try bitching on the rights of people, dividing them and ruling autocratically. Shamelessly as Gyanendra is trying to do.
I wonder if you are reading my own thread. Gyanendra need not walk away, he can and if he wish , forge everybody together. WHy the hell should we put him beyod the constitutional framework. Maoists are just demanding to put the King within the constitutional and legal frame work. Who is this b*****************************
to be acuitted of every wrong doings. WHy does a criminal like the murderer of a singer is acquitted of his crime. Why can't the court even question some criminals?? Thats my question to you.

Amidst all the chaotic, repulsive, and outright rediculous personal slanderings that the Sajha political forums have witnessed recently, every once in a while there pops up a sentence or two, a thought or two, that is truly profound.

Newuser wrote: "These thugs are as responsible as corrupt politicians for the failure of multi party system in Nepal."

I would undoubtedly refrain from calling them "thugs" -- they are as equally deserving of respect as the people who belong to the anti-King camp. However, I personally am truly heart broken to see so many of even the educated Nepalis suporting the obviously foolish move by King G.

The very fact that so many of us (some of you may claim a majority, which apparently is yet to be proven) do not have confidence in ourselves as people -- as if we always need a "father figure" to guide us through the process by which we are suppose to govern ourselves -- is unmistakably indicative of the fact that the need for democracy is all the more urgent in Nepal.

Democracy is NOT a package that can be delivered once a dictatorial individual decides that "his" people are ready for it -- it is a continuing PROCESS in which it corrects itself of it's misgivings. Yes, democracy was obviously very weak in Nepal, and the leaders were undoubtedly inept and hopelessly corrupt; however, the only way to address the problem of weak democracy is by STRENTHENING it, not by destroying whatever little we might have had.

In the recent weeks, we, as people, have proved how utterly we lack AWARENESS and how much we cling to disbelief in ourselves. The only way we can achieve flourishing democracy in nepal, therefore, is by EMPOWERING the individuals -- to make them believe in themselves, rather than in a "father figure" -- which, I am afraid, dictators, by the virtue of their raison d'etre can NEVER do!

Still hoping to believe the best in KingG (in a sense that he'd experience a profound realization of his egregious blunder, and that he'd do something drastic to correct it), but rapidly losing hope,

A truly distraught Nepali citizen.