read this...

http://demrepubnepal.blogspot.com/2006/04/aire-gaire-natthu-khaire-pahadis.html

also: http://sebsonline.org/forum/forum_view.aspx?F=1&T=71657

as we have seen in the other forum "Bhagat goes crazy" and his own blog... paramendra is trying to spread hatred among the nepalese people...at a time when we should unite and fight as a united force, he is trying to break the country apart along ethnic lines.... so hereby I call upon a social boycott of his blog which is his instrument to spread hatred and antagonism among nepalese brothers and sisters.....I request upon all of you to boycott his propaganda machine which he is using to spread hatred as well as to advertise his own "importance"

I agree with you 100% ashu!!!

ashu,

the problem is you don't even read my reply.

Where did I say he doesn't have right? Am I the one calling for social boycott? Hell, no. I don't read his blog anyway, except this one which who knows may be he himself put.

I am also a passionate supporter of the Madhesi cause. (who knows who I am?) But the reason why madhesi movements have suffered is because of leaders like badri mandal and lack of leaders like Mahendra Nidhi.

by all means, bhagat can sleep in an apartment in ny and shout as much as he wants. that's not going to make any difference to me, and hardly any madhesi reads his blog in nepal. but when an educated and wellrespected madhesi go to villages, and makes his case to his people, people are bound to listen to him.

now you can add paramendra bhagat's name next to badri mandal and all other so called leaders who have fuked the madhesis over in the name of helping them. bhagat is a rising star of the same category. good thing he showed us his colors.

Lazy,

You could be right.

If he could sell some 'pamplets' of 'Sangram Morcha' to class 4/5 kids.

Comparing Paramendra to Badri Mandal is a bit of a stretch by any measure.

Paramendra's self-aggrandizing aside, which I agree is comical at best and sick at worst, I have yet to hear any sound reasoning against what I interpret as the crux of his argument : the Madesi cause is just and should be pretty high on the priority list for a nation that has treated it Madesi citizenry - men, women and children - as second-class citizens.

Obviously, Paramendra's style is unlikely to win him converts, least of all on Sajha, but the substance of his argument, in my opinion, is strong and sound. I disagree with how he intends to reach his goals mainly because I think his tactics are impractical and will actually weaken the Madesi community but trying to belittle his argument by attacking him is as silly as Paramendra making himself out to be bigger than he is.

interesting discussion. lazy wally, would you happen to know the breakdown of nepal's poplulation by group? you show there are quite a few (rouhgly 10-20%) madeshis in positions of power. that seems like a lot, compared to other ethnic groups like sherpas, kirats, majhis, etc. so if you could state the overall % of madeshis in nepal, that would help buttress your argument further.

there is discrimination no doubt. but is it ethnicity-based, or socio-economic status based? a rich madhesi businessman would command a lot more respect and influence than a poor madhesi villager. now if this discrimination is culturally driven, it's gonna take some time. my personal belief is that such cultural barriers will be less of an obstacle going forward tho.

however, if the discrimination is somehow embedded in the machinery of the system, it (the system) needs to be changed, not only for madhesis but for all oppressed groups. would something like affirmative action (e.g. african american, lower caste indian admissions to colleges) be the ansewr? having seen how the rich black kids get into top colleges thanks to affirmative action, i have my reservations. the broader question is: what is the solution? shoudl a quota system for public offices replace the merit based system (e.g. lok sabha exams)?

anyway, it does seem like paramendra bro is trying to cash in on the momentum and public sentiment. he realizes that his core constituency will alwasy be the madhesi group (mind you, even within the madhesis, there is a LOT of discrimination amongst the various sub groups, so a bit of hypocracy here). therefore, teh only way he can ever reach a position of power is through their support, and the best way to ensure this is by getting their voices heard.

oh i almost forgot. this is for pilot: dude, i had never visited paramendra bro's blog until i saw this thread. thanks for publicising it and generating so much controversy! sometimes, in marketing any publicity is good publicity!

What's hilarious is that Mr. Bhagat uses a Pahadi to bolster his view that he is one of the "five central figures in the revolution worldwide". The quote is:

"If there are five central figures in this revolution worldwide, I am one of them. Madhav Nepal acknowledges that, and he is the person who is going to be the first president of Nepal. He might say I am one, and he is another. But I am being generous, I am saying five."

I guess he wants the nobody pahadis in America to acknowledge he's a somebody. I say this guy is a whacko, but it doesn't matter what we think of him. He's appealing to his base/constituents. The guy clearly wants to do something for the Madhesi community. Power to him.

. i agree with ashu completely here.

. the rest, well, फुलको आँखामा फुलै संसार...

the guy who started this topic is the biggest idiot. i think this has given paramendra nothing but a well deserved publicity. I think its funny how some follks here are completely missing the point. The messg is not just a Madhesi issue...the issue is about how our society..be it business, personal or political is founded around nepotism and communalism specific to gender or caste... newars wanna do busines only with newars, mares wanna have only mares as biz partners, bahuns wanna have only bahuns as political leaders...so see the equation.. where are the madhesis in the equation is i think the question paramendra is trying to ask.. so the way i see it madhesi =castless society in so called democratic nepal.

so give the guy a break.. try to understand his humour than to make a mockery...