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New Royalist!

I thought I am done with Sajha for few moths. However, when I read his Majesty’s car got stoned in BBC news as a top story of the day, I couldn’t stop myself from dropping few words. What a shame and what a best example of uncivilization to the world!

Instead of discouraging such misbehavior, so called leaders will label it as the people’s sentiment. What a shameful culture! What a shameful politics! And what a shameless poeple!

Maoists have taught us very wild culture. Kill them! Beat them! Hit them! Wipe them out! Eradicate them! These are Enemies! ..... These are the words Nepali society has learnt from these Maoists. I have always recognized their most of the political demands and agendas; however, I have never supported their principle …. Their self-righteousness cruelty and extremism have always been a repulsive force for me.

Today country is divided, who taught this? Maoists! To make their so called peoples war they divided people by caste, culture, region and ethnicity. A tiny little country got divided into numerous pieces by the name of aweakening people. Now we all have witnessed how chaotic the country is being.

There are better way to do right things. If your radio is not working, fix it properly; don’t hit it. Once it had worked by hitting doesn’t mean that hitting is the right way of fixing.

What type of culture we are getting from these cruel people? What type of civilization we are learning? By the name of revolution these people introduced a culture of anger. A good quality is recognized by every culture, every society and everybody. …it is human to recognize good and bad. Tell me any civilized society which recognizes anger over forgiveness? Any society which promotes anger is uncivilized, premitive society.

The poor king, who is left with nothing, is an object of compassion. He has done mistake but people are exaggerating his mistake. Few decades later when unbiased History will be written, I bet Prachanda will not remain hero.

King killed 21 people and lost everything; Maoist killed thousands and got everything. Girija killed thousands and became hero of the country. Krishna Sitaula killed more than 21 and refusing to resign. It is too old logic to say king killed to impose autocracy where as Prachand are Girija killed for Democracy. Prachanda and Girija had had killed each others people. If you are saying Prachanda were right, Girija must be wrong and he must be punished. If you are saying Girija was right, Prachand must be wrong and he must be punished. If you blame on king for their kilsl, you must be jocking.

Don’t blame only to Royal regime for our backwardness. Royal regime is responsible but we are equally responsible too. We have tradition to blame others. Do you know what type of culture we have? What to talk about other things we need foreign aid to dump our waste! We are not good ourselves how silly is it to expect our leaders to be good? Afterall we all share the same culture including leaders and the king.


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We will become 'malaa maal' again..

knight crawler जी, हो तपाईं को कुरा संग म सहमत छु । हामी ले चाहेको केवल शान्ति हो । देश माधेरै खून बहे, अब बन्द हुनु पर्छ भनेको मात्र हुं । माओवादी ले गरेका , रोपेका बिष हरु झांगिदै छन र तिनको प्रतिफल भोग्नै पर्दछ । जनयुग्दको नाम मा कयौं निर्दोष ब्यक्ती हरुको पाशबिक ढंगले हत्या भएको छ, त्यसको लेखाजोखा हामी ले न गरे नि पीडिट का सन्ततिहरुले गरेका छन् होला। तर यस्को मतलब् हामी ले पुन: गृह युद्ध खोजेका छौनौ।
अहिले देश् मा केहि त शान्ति छ, मओबादि भूत् त्रास् त कम् भएको छ। निमित्यान्न चाहि भएको छैन। फेरि शान्ति बाह्ड्न तराइमा आगो सल्काए। त्यस्को पो निन्दा गर्नु पर्छ भनेको। बाकि कुरा मा म तपाई सङ सहमत् छु। अस्तु~!

There you go again, Khaobadi! Very funny! :D

It seems like there is no solution for stabilty and betterment of our country. girija chor raja daka prachande hathyara.
Still can't stop hoping that everything will turn out well at the end.
May pashupatinath bless us all

I am coming here not with politics but with my amateur psychological philosophy.

To be quick, I think, with due regard, what Vishontar-jee is feeling for the king at the moment is not a compassion in Buddhist or ordinary sense, but a situational sympathy produced by what is known as a "reverse psychology".

Buddhist compassion, as far as I have understood, is neither situational nor manipulative or discriminatory. A Buddhist who is feeling a compassion for the disgraced king would feel the same compassion for the people who disgraced the king.

So, it ain't no higher compassion.

It's rather a pretty mundane "reverse" sympathy coming out of an easily impressed mind or one sparking at the spur of the moment.

This kind may have psychological significance obviously, but it does not have any moral value whatsoever.

My worthless arrogant dui shabda.

Nepe

just few decades ago, Bhutan was as poor as we are right now. Now Bhutan is top in south Asia. Just one hydro power project which contribute 10% net income to a land locked and tiny nation is becoming prosperous in south Asia. Not taking account of Prithbi narayan Shah, all the history of Shah dynasty is full of conspiracy to Nepalese people and national resources used to solely benefit of their family only. They all utilised state resources for their personal benefits.I am wondering why people are not convinced Royals are the root cause of present Nepal. Its just few decades ago, Bhutan was as poor as we are right now. Now Bhutan is top in south Asia. Just one hydro power project which contibute 10% net income to a land locked and tiny nation is becoming prosperous in south Asia. Not taking acoount of Prithbi narayan Shah, all the history of Shah dynasty is full of conspiracy to Nepalese people and sole benifit of their family only. They all utilised state resources for their personal benefits.I am wondering why people are not convinced Royals are the root cause of present Nepal. Do not civilisation, culture, arts, crafts of Kathmandu valley show how rich Nepal was before Shahas took over it?Just count me guys anything tens of Shahas king in a long run of generation to generation of life time did anything noteworthy to make Nepal prosper? Its time to calculate how big (giga) projects can we build utilising kings property( hotel Soaltee, Hotel Annapurna, Sipradi, Surya nepal and its sister concerns, Himalaya gudrick, many darbars and lands etc etc) ? As Rana's propery were capitalised after 2007 revolution, why not right now? The civilisation, culture, arts, crafts of Kathmandu valley show how rich Nepal was before Shahas took over it.Just count me guys anything tens of Shahas king in a long run of generation to generation of life time did anything noteworthy to make Nepal prosper? Its time to calculate how big (giga) projects can we build utilising kings property( hotel Soaltee, Hotel Annapurna, Sipradi, Surya nepal and its sister concerns, Himalaya gudrick, many darbars and lands etc etc) ? As Rana's property were capitalised after 2007 revolution, why not right now? Had Gyanendra been a wise man(king) , he would not made a mistake when he had got all the state power few years ago. How much money you need to feed your family? thousands? millions? billions? trillions?...... Infinity?...... He is a fool and greedy man. A nepalese farmer is far wiser than him. The farmer grows paddy in his one bigha land, he grows nearly 3200 kg (80 man); he sells half and fulfills his children's education,dasai necessity and so on. In the mean time he cares chickens,goats and cartels to meet his "nun tel". grows vegetables in his yards, too. This is the simple life of a Nepali family. A farmer is pretty much sure of his did in Nepal than Gyanedra.Gyanendra is a fool, its because he just could not figure it out he was going to ruin his 250 years old dynasty on the basis of " pashupati le sabai ko kalyan garun" as his fathers and fore fathers did. Its high time to think way out for Nepal. A wise enemy is better than a foolish friend.
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RahulVai Ji:

I can see the gesture....at the end of the day, we have the same motive...but we have different opinions on how we should/could go about acheiving it. I respect all the view-points expressed here....

Raman:
I have to agree, other than Prithivi Narayan Shah, most of the Shah kings Nepal saw had/has been busy trying to save their throne, rather than to save and prosper the nation....Having said that, observing the current situation, I see no leaders in the current political scenario who I think has the experience, courage or even a desire to see Nepal prosper and be the country we all hope and wish to see.....This is just my personal observation, so we, for sure can have different opinions......

Like I said in the previous posting, I wanna be wrong on this one....I would rather be wrong and see my country proper, but, sadly enough, hopes are thinning out each passing day.........

I am a BIG ROYALIST.

There are three categories of people in Nepal:

1> Royalist: Educated, learned, wise, and who can foresee the future. The most talented and loyal. They want to work, and dedicated to make the nation prosperous. They are religious, but not extremist.

2> Democratic: People who are corrupted and scared of unemployment if King's direct rule is imposed. Will even sell their daughter, sister and mother, if they are paid--even a cup of coffee. Highly uneducated, so they chose politics as their career; they wont find jobs.

3> Maoists: Uneducated, illiterate, sheep minded, poor, hungry, and also the terrorists. Forcibly want to create communal riots, entertain in civil war, and DO NOT like to work; they rather want to rob, kill, steal, murder, rape so that they can eat.

I am proud I belong to the FIRST category and I AM A ROYALIST.

Jai Desh! Jai Naresh!

Long live king!!!

Civil society leaders denounce King's message

A number of prominent civil society activists have denounced the democracy day message by King Gyanendra terming it as "an ill-intentioned attempt to justify his autocratic takeover of 1 February 2005."

"The statement goes directly against the people's desires for lasting peace through the free and fair conduct of the constituent assembly elections," states a statement issued jointly by leading civil society activists including senior leftist politician Nilambar Acharya, human rights activist Sushil Pyakurel, politician Nabindra Raj Joshi and senior journalist Kanak Mani Dixit.

Adding to the voices raised by political parties pointing out to the unconstitutionality and inappropriateness of the King's message, the activists, too, have denounced it and demanded that the legislature and seven party government remove the King from the government residence at Narayanhiti; immediately wrest the title of 'King' from him and forbid all public actions, statements and travel by the King.

The statement adds that the Nepali public recognises King Gyanendra as an autocrat who does not believe in constitutional rule. "Having already shown his malicious intent by defying the 1990 Constitution, he has once again stepped on the Interim Constitution adopted after the restoration of democracy. We believe that the responsibility for taking action against the king for his statement falls upon the Government of Nepal and the Interim Legislature which has the overwhelming participation of the eight parties."

"At a time when the prime minister holds the responsibilities of head-of-state and the king has been denied any role or power under the Interim Constitution, we find the king grossly irresponsible for having issued the statement. Such an ill-intentioned action by the king has made more tenuous the already-fluid transitional political situation in the country," the statement adds. nepalnews.com sd Feb 19 07

I have already said , who is civil society leaders, btw ???

ok , i admit this is unconsitutional that the head of state who was in suspended state should not give address to the nation.OK lets play the game of consititution, What consititution did the5 declaration was done after Janadolan 2? Amend the consiitution then , declare, step by step .

I agree...Now, check out this tribute to the king.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=RYDlJCmtizw

NO BODY NEEDS TO BE ROYALIST !!!!BUT JUST THINK TWICE BEFORE REMOVING THIS KING.WHO IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER KING OF NEPAL- PRACHANDA.
YOU HAVE ONLY TWO CHOICE AT THIS POINT
GYANENDRA OR PRACHANDA - YOU MAKE THE CHOICE - NO ONE COUNTS - CONGRESS , UML DO NOT COUNT ANYMORE!!!!!THIS IS EXTREME SITUATION.BELIEVE ME OR NOT!!

Imi you smuck, don't you get it. The choice is not betwen King Gyanendra and Prachanda. It's not about personalities or two mere individuals. The choice is between the institution of monarchy and the institution of loktantra, what ever these might mean to your rotten brains. JanAndonlan 2 has already proven these two institutions cannot coexist. So there you go.

Well if you think under Prachanda, loktantra will be stifled then that's altogether another good point for debating.

But like I said the choice is not between Gyane or Prachanday. Gyane is out...

Now the choice is how do you institutionalise loktantra in a way that neither Prachanda can highjack it nor Gyane can reclaim it as if it were his "purkha lay arjaya sampati".

YOU DON"T GET IT!!!Karmpa jack ass!!cause you have small brain ..very little that is easy washed by leaders ..i am sure you were the one who used to run with king's photo when you were kid ...hahaha
your analysis is very superficial.I know very well what i am talking.I have given several reasons for it too in other threads .If you cannot punish people who committed crime and corruption in past then why are you punishing one person.??look who is talking now??same old corrupt leaders and their followers.

Because of institution of monarachy Nepal has remained Nepal.you will never get it .no matter how i explain it to you .as i said you have less insight and knowledge .You go with the flow .have courage to think for yourself once in while .enough of attacking you personally .I have no interest on such activity but you are always there.Read my all posts if you can : I am not defending Gyane .I am defending democracy..idoit!!Gyane is not enemy , if you leave him with his crown only he will be happy but in the process of taking away crown you will crowing some other guy with ill intention!!!!

You think you will tame maoist???hahaha...70 k army couldn't tame maoist monkeys --hijada congress and UML will tame them ..don't come and joke here man !!
they will first kill king , the RPP, then Congress then UML...everyone will have their chance .

and one more thing Karmapa .( i remember you ).what did i tell you about Hinduism and secularism..are you seeing what's going on in Nepal???You remember anything???ring some bell !!!!!!Again , i am telling you this is just the begining !!!!you wait and watch.

also , what i am told you earlier in above post you wait and watch..unless you will be exteremly happy when mao democracy (what a joke !) flourish in Nepal !!
Go chant buddhist matra for peace in Nepal rather than coming here and discussing with me!!!

I am so grateful to all of you who have posted here. I am overwhelmed by pro as well as against feelings. Since there are so many people participated, it will be tedious to thank individually. So, please spare me!

Since I have started this thread, I have kind of responsibility not to give you a mixed message. ..let me be very specific and clear.

I hope I was not mistranslated. I wrote the article because I can not promote uncivilization and I always back the victim. It is uncivilized to stone anyone no matter who he is. Think what if it was you instead of the King?

We all are people whether royalist or non-royalist; I respect both. There are good people as well as bad people among royalists. If you think to be royalist is a matter of shame please give me a convincing reason for that. Can you claim that those people who are non-royalists are smart, better, wise, good looking, strong and progressive over the royalist? Can you claim that all the royalists are corrupt, self centered, greedy wolves where as non-royalists are social servant, generous, good hearted people? Were those people, who you scolded for 12 years of democratic practice, Royalist?

We all are Nepali, product of the same culture. Statistically good and bad are equally distributed among royalists as well as non-royalist. Personally I feel, to be royalist is not a matter of shame. Royalist is a belief, perhaps better then the communist belief. It is because, King can not exist without multiparty democracy and he can not go against it; he better know the consequences. However, Maoists have been saying that their final destination is Communist Republic of Nepal; a single party system. You can’t imagine how scary it is! I boldly say, to be Royalist is a matter of pride than to be a communist.

I know many royalists, very good people, who care about country and fellow Nepali. I know many good non-royalists as well who care about country as well as fellow Nepali. I personally know some selfish royalists and non-royalists.

Personally I am not a royalist; neither have I had any connection with politics. I grew up in a political family; my father was a humble politician and he lost his fortune in politics. I know since my childhood that politics is not for me as it was not for my dad. So please don’t categorize me politically.

I protected King Gyanendra not because I am politically close to him; not because he is highly regarded for me; not because he is the man I trust; but because he was the victim. I will protect anybody who is victim despite his/her rank, reputation, color, gender, type and class.

I am a friend of bad days. I can not see you suffering; I will certainly help you if you are in misery no matter who you are. This is how I am! A person who got stoned was a victim; he was the one who had suffered. Do you want me to feel happy? No no I can’t do that. I might be different than you but I can not laugh at suffering people no matter how bad the person is. I have human heart and a precious property called compassion, that I always proud of.

VISHONTAR-Jee:

I have a small question, out of many big questions. I would be enlightened if you could answer me:

Many people believe that King Gyanendra masterminded the royal massacre and killed Birendra's family. A murderer gets severe punishment, he hasn't; he is still living a handsome life, maybe little crippled without the power. You have sympathy for the killed brother and family or the killer?

You don't believe that he killed his Birendra's family. Fine. I think Nepal is too poor to feed this luxurious Narayanghti palace. I live in a village where there are people who, if don't work a SINGLE day, have to spend night in hunger. And, the king of these many hungry people, increased the fund of Naryanghiti Palace by thousands of dollars. You have sympathy for the rich King or poor Nepali that die of hunger?

If you try to see the stoned king as an incident irrespective all other happenings, rather with unqualified absolute approach, I have nothing to say. If you have sympathy for both parties in either of the cases I mentioned, I will try to believe that you have rised above the human emotions, or even have reached close to "Nirvana."

Slockmedic Bhaiya:

Do you want to be the president of nepal? If you are, w will give you 3-4 districts. Live with you babu, prachu and hisila aama.
Try the best alternative, and if you think thru your wisdom, which I am sure you dont, king is the best alternative.

Slackdemic Ji, it's a good question; thank you!

First of all I don't go by doubts. Second I don't want to discuss imaginary scenario. So, please forgive me I have no evidence to blame on King Gyanendra for Royal Massacre.

Of course I have compassion for King Birendra's family no matter who killed them.

I have compassion for all disadvantaged Nepali brothers and sisters and strong commitment to do something for them. Compassion is a state of mind, it is always for those people who are suffering.

Suffering is not only to be physically disadvantaged. Psychological agony is quite severer misery then the physical deficiency. Very few people suicide for lack of food, however, many people suicide because they can not bear the psychological agony. This is the reason why there is more suicide rate in Norway and Japan then anywhere else.

I have sympathy for the king because I believe he is in psychological agony. Compassion is a state of mind, it doesn't distinguish rich or poor, haves or have notes. The heart gets filled up for anyone who is suffering.

As a well wisher, I would suggest king to leave the arrogance nature; win the hearts of people if he wants to remain the king. I personally don't have any reason to admire him. I personally don't see any good quality in him which deserve my respect. It could be true that I don't know him.