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jhigatighare
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I totally understand business. But business can be done without lowering oneself, community or nation. This is a case of compromised national value and very much the reason why rest of the world profiles Nepal and Nepali as low esteem nation. I am not against the name 'India', but I very much loathe how the name says 'India's Nepal'. India does not own Nepal. Why we Nepalis ourselves telling the whole world that we belong to India ? Very pathetic sensibility of some of my countrymen.
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Reading a very heated and hateful reply by Sanee
I will say 2 simple things again:
1. You think owner is not innocent and simple but greedy businessman - then come to the restaurant meet him peacefully and learn yourself.
2. If you do come, please be well behaved and sit down to talk/discuss rather than resorting to any display of hatred. Or else you may attract lot of unwanted attention and some onlooker may call cops, this area is under regular police surveillance- Mostly due to 2 very recent criminal incidents in this area.
But I am sure, rather than sitting somewhere demonizing someone to be so bad and all, you could go and see them and realize reality.
And I am confident if you do come, you'll carry yourself in most dignified and lawful way.
Again, owner seems to me as a very simple guy, I am sure he is not a tremendously intelligent scholar or seomthing, and he gives away so much free food that I dont think he is greedy either.
And I think I am more correct than Sanee, because she is just 'thinking' I go to this restaurant almost once or twice in a week.
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Posted on 09-08-11 8:23
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Adaptiver, there's nothing personal to take with you, its just our thoughts that differs from each other.
Lemme ask you, what do you understand if you come too read a phrase "India's Nepal" ? (I hope you know the meaning of it and I believe your English is far better than mine).
So, the restaurant with this name obviously mean Nepal is in India and in his restaurant we can eat Nepali food and its simply clear that if we eat Nepali food in the restaurant, we are eating Indian food (A=B=C that means A=C) like any other Indian foods categorized as Kasmiri pulau, Kolkotta ko katti rolls, Hyderabad ko biryani..... blah blah blah
Furthermore, I'm not a silly girl to spend hundreds dollars which I hardly have in my account to try out this India's Nepali Oven. And if I ever come be there in Colorado, specially in Denver where that Indian Nepali's restaurant is, I will never eat there rather I will find a pure Indian restaurant where I can eat from Indian oven (pure Indian food). If someone like you insist me to eat there just because the owner offers food free in cost, damn don't get offended cause I'll slap him or her.
The owner may be simple and innocent that is secondary thing, it will take time to figure it out. What I face is first is the name of the restaurant. And I go for traditional saying -- first impression is the last impression.
Secondly, I will be thinking of what should I say and how should I defend if any of Americans from Colorado by chance come to visit Nepal and ask me about this restaurant and its illicit relation with India for the shake of money. I still believe the owner is greedy trying to grab attention from large group of people, he must be thinking, various group of people drop in his restaurant to taste Indian food. India is many times bigger than Nepal and economically progressing too. Its simple that millions people know about India while few may know about Nepal.
Even though we know the fact that many international people are being misguided by fake information as they read books written by Indian authors (I don't know when will they easily access to read the books about Nepal written by Nepali authors). Let me give you example of this, we don't need to go far, ask Asian people including our Northern neighbor China about Gautam Buddha -- their reply will be Gautam Buddha was born and Buddhism was originated in India. This is what they are reading man.
For sure, America has other name "FREEDOM" but does it mean I have to tolerate whatever others do to offend me? Parroting the word freedom doesn't mean one has delve in depth to understand it properly, America is a country of freedom in a sense that people enjoy absolute democracy here. Remind you, democracy has a rule -- care not to violate others right while enjoying yours. This particular para is dedicated to those Sajha users who enjoy attacking other users with vulgar words because they feel safe doing so behind curtain.
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Posted on 09-09-11 12:47
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owner is simple and innocent?/ ha ha..
well honestly i don't know which Nepali owner we're talking about here.. but i knew a couple and they were big time cheaters.. they would hire Nepali without papers or with dv lottery and limited English making them work like 12 hours a day and force them to live in their condo or house and have them pay the rent thus paying their mortgage. Nepali workers would prefer to live somewhere comfortabley but these volchures would force them to be packed in a 2 bedrooms with 6 ppl. plus they would not pay their salary in time because that would hang them around the sucky jobs little longer hoping to get their full pay one day. they usually pay 9 to 12 hundreds a month which is below below minimum wage for the state of CO.
but i am not sure who is the owner here ,hopefully he is really innocent and simple as this guy says here.. but mostly Indian , Nepali owners tend to abuse the people with limited english and withoutt papers to the level of slavery. and i really hope it's not this one Nepali owner who acted like he didn't know english but knew everything thing on how to cheat taxes, how to file docs as cooks and ask 10-20 grands from Nepalis to process their gc.. even how to go get hookers in colfax area but then act like simple and innocent..
if you're a hippie kind a American living around boulder area then i let me apologize to you , this owner maybe making a big fool of you..he might be sweet talking to you while you eat there but at the same time abusing the heck out of 10 innocent Nepalis while he puts that fake smile and gives you freen chai and papad...
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AdaptiveRajat
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:05
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pshrestha your interpretation is so unreasonable. Out Of close to 30,000,000 Nepalese (source of population count: Google)
You know 2 people who were not good and thats your basis of laughing on my friend, the owner to be "simple and innocent haha" ?
Its similar to saying, I know 2 people who are not so nice so you must be a bad person too.
And ok, I also know such not Nepalese but Indian owners who do those kind of things, BUT!
Why are the people who only want to see this owner as some bad person not ready to go and meet him and know for yourself?
And Owner does NOT give out free food, its a misinterpretation.
Chai and Papad are called COMPLIMENTARY FOOD not Free Food.
I said I am so regular, that sometime he doesnot charge us (me and my friend) for some one appetizer or a naan as a happy gesture.
He is doing business afterall not charity.
Why did I mention this? Because some girl from Kathmandu thinks he must be greedy. And to reply to it that I know he is not I told this.
Its not that she comes here and find this guy offering free food just so that she stops her hatred.
I will say 2 simple things again:
1. You think owner is not innocent and simple but greedy businessman - then come to the restaurant meet him peacefully and learn yourself.
2. If you do come, please be well behaved and sit down to talk/discuss rather than resorting to any display of hatred. Or else you may attract lot of unwanted attention and some onlooker may call cops, this area is under regular police surveillance- Mostly due to 2 very recent criminal incidents in this area.
But I am sure, rather than sitting somewhere demonizing someone to be so bad and all, you could go and see them and realize reality.
And I am confident if you do come, you'll carry yourself in most dignified and lawful way.
Again, owner seems to me as a very simple guy, I am sure he is not a tremendously intelligent scholar or seomthing, and he gives away so much free food that I dont think he is greedy either.
And I think I am more correct than Sanee, because she is just 'thinking' I go to this restaurant almost once or twice in a week.
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:18
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हमारे भारतका नेपाली चुलो मे सबै स्वाभिमानी नेपालीको लागि बहुत स्वागत हे अनी फ्री कम्प्लिमेन्त्री नान र पापद भी सजिलैसँग मिलेगा । हमारा नेपाल महान छ। इस्मे दुइमत नहोला।
नपाल भारत मैत्री सम्बन्ध के साथ साथ खाने पिने के भि उत्तरोत्तर प्रगती को कामना गर्दै इज प्याज को बिदा दिजिये
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:23
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Why are you repeating same thing again Adaptiver ?
Ok, I understand restaurant owner is your good friend who offers you free food and you are here to defend him.
If you are really intimate with him then why don't you tell him many of us are offended to see and hear that he owns a restaurant named (I retireted the NAME of the restaurant is offensive) "India's Nepal Oven"?
Don't get emotional to see people censuring your friend, defend with logic.
If I were a good friend of the owner, my first step would be to try to convince him and won't get lured with free food offer.
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AdaptiveRajat
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:30
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Sanee madam,
I had to repeat points because you people are not reading what I am saying.
You also did not read what I wrote so I will repeat again:
I told Jhigati that I am going to talk to owner about all this in the evening and that he also knows he made some mistake unknowignly.
Thats why I am here, he doesnt get to use internet, pls read my post on this.
Last evening I could not go so I am going today at lunch to his place. I will talk to him.
What will I talk? Again, you please read I have written it in posts above.
Thanks.
I understood Sajha Onion a ittle and I think he has written something very nice.
Thanks,
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sajha onion
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:41
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Arrey bhaiya sometimes accident ho jata hai. Ismein samajdaari yehi hoga ki aap accident ko kubul kijiye.
Usi baat ka bimochan ho raha hai. Ismey bhalai yehi hai ki woh owner log kuch press release nikalkar sabko bataye yeh bhul ho gaya aur woh naam badal denge kuch taaim ke baad. Itni mein sab ka bhalai hai. Woh naam badley ya nabadle woh koi waasta nahi karega. Log sirf uska sorry sunna chahate hai.
Humko ek bada famous song yaad aya
Kabhi kabhi mere dil mein khayaal aata hai ki jaisi Nepal Oven ko banaya gaya hai India mein
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:43
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मेनु मे कबाब, बतर चिकेन, चिकेन मक्खनी, नान, कोर्मा अधी एत्यदी सब राख दो तर रेस्तुरेन्ट को नाम चै नेपाली नै होन चैये है, किन कि ऐसा नही भएगा तो मेर नेपाली पेत खाना नही पचा एह गा
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AdaptiveRajat
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:48
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Sajha Onion - I will definitely tell your view to the owner, I will go out to lunch there after 3 hours.
Thanks.
-- aapne jo sujhaav diya hai is bhul ko sudharne ke liye, main owner ko aaj lunch par jaa kar zaroor bataaoonga.
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समहाउ दिस रिमाइन्ड्ज मि अफ ह्रितिक रोशन|||
Nepal protests heat up
Police were involved in bloody clashes with protesters
Tension continues to rise in the Nepalese capital Kathmandu, which has been paralysed by a protest at an Indian film star's alleged slur.
Dozens of people have been injured in clashes between student protesters and the police which have continued for a third consecutive day.
I have never spoken against Nepal and why should I?
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Hrithik Roshan
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Four people have died as a result of the violence, and the protesters have now demanded that the country's deputy prime minister resign.
Kathmandu's streets were deserted, and shops and restaurants closed in protest against the Bollywood heart-throb Hrithik Roshan, who is alleged to have made derogatory remarks about Nepal in a television interview.
Mr Roshan is accused of saying he hated Nepal and its people.
He has denied he made the remarks, and said he wanted to tell the Nepalese people that he loved them.
He told the BBC he would not apologise for something he had not done, but was upset at the violence.
Indian businesses have been attacked
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On Wednesday, thousands of demonstrators burnt tyres in the streets and attacked shops, some of them owned by Indians.
Cinemas and cable operators have stopped screening Hindi films while the Government of Nepal appealed for calm.
The police fired tear gas and charged the protesters with batons to stop them from proceeding towards the Indian embassy.
Indian concern
The Indian Government has reacted strongly against the violence and said the protests were carefully orchestrated "by elements inimical to Indo-Nepalese friendship to create an atmosphere of hatred and distrust".
The foreign office in Delhi summoned the charge d'affaires of the Nepalese embassy to express its concern.
And Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee has spoken to his Nepalese counterpart, Girija Prasad Koirala, over the matter.
Roshan's films are watched by millions
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The Bollywood star said he was completely baffled by the controversy.
"I have never spoken against Nepal and why should I? I love the Nepalese people just as much as I love the Indian people," he said.
Hrithik Roshan's hit film, Kaho Na Pyar Hai (Say You Love Me), ran for weeks in many cinemas this year.
Hindi films and Bollywood stars are very popular in Nepal, but some of them have been embroiled in controversy in recent years.
Last year, actress Madhuri Dixit apologised after an uproar over her remarks that Nepal was a part of India.
Following similar protests 30 years ago, the films of the then superstar, Dharmendra, were banned in Nepal and they are still not screened.
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:52
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Rajat ji aapke mukh mein rashogullas aur pakodas. Hamaare taraf se bhi.
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लु धेरै गाउलेहरुले धेरै कुरा लेखिसकेछन् यो रेस्टुराको बारेमा ...... सबैले लेखेको पढ्न पनि भ्याएको छैन । तर साझामा यो धागो धेरै अघि देखि देखिरहेको थिए । तर आफु बसेको ठाउबाट त्यो रेस्टुराँ कम्तिमा पनि ४० मिनेट गाडी चलाएर जानु पर्ने । तर अस्ति मौकाबस एउटा नेपालीको पार्टी त्यही रेस्टुराँमा परेर त्यहा जाने मौका पर्यो । भएन रेस्टुराँको साहु जि लाई यो नाम किन राखेको सोध्नुपर्यो भनेको, असाध्यै भिडभाड; आफुलाई पनि अन्त जान हतार त्यही भएर अलि अलि कच्याक कुचुक चपाएर हिंड्न भनेर लागेको थिए । ढोका अगाडि पुग्दा अर्को नेपाली जोडी देखा पर्यो । बुढा चाहिले नाकै समाएर ओहो कस्तो गनाएको भन्दै थिए । मलाई रेस्टुराँ मालिक ठानेर अलि सामान्य बन्दै उनले सोधे " यो रेस्टुराँ तपाईंको हो" । मैले हाँस्दै "होइन" भने र आफ्नो बाटो लागे । रेस्टुराँ वरिपरी नै काँही के नाम काँही के नाम देखिन्थ्यो । एउटा कुरा प्रष्ट के छ भने रेस्टुराँ मालिक कसरी बढी भन्दा बढी ग्राहक आकर्षण गर्ने भन्ने तयारीमा छन्, शायद उनको आशा होला त्यो नाम राख्यो भने भारतीयहरु पनि आउछन् कि भन्ने । तर नाममा भन्दा काममा ध्यान दिनु पर्ने कुरा शायद उनलाई ज्ञात भएन नत्र ढोकामा पुग्ने बित्तिकै कस्तो गनाउने भन्ने स्थिती आयो भने त नामले मात्र कसरी रेस्टुराँ चल्नु? तर जे होस् उनले त्यो नाम चाँही उट्पट्याङ नाम नै राखेका हुन् । त्यस्तो वाहियात नाम पढ्ने विदेशीहरुलाई नेपाल भनेको भारतकै एउटा प्रदेश रहेछ भन्ने मनमा सजिलै पर्नसक्छ । त्यसकारण हामी मध्य जो जो त्यो रेस्टुराँमा पुग्नसक्छ त्यसले त्यो रेस्टुराँको मालिकलाई सम्झाउनु नै राम्रो होला । अर्को कुरा चाँही यहाँ डेन्भरमा भएका नेपाली छोटे बाबुहरुले कामदारहरुलाई सकेसम्म दलाउने कुरा त यहाँ मात्र नभएर पुरै अमेरिका भरि नै होला । अनि एउटा रेस्टुराँवालाको आँखाबाट हेर्दा चाँही अधिकांश नेपाली ग्राहकको मिजास एकदम नराम्रो छ । एउटा टेबुलमा बसेर दस तिर चाहर्न खोज्छ, अनि सबै कुरा सित्तै चाहन्छ । पोहोर साल बोस्टोन एउटा नेपाली रेस्टुराँवालाले दुखेसो सुनाए एउटा नेपाली ग्राहकले राम्ररी हेरेर खुशी भए झै गरी दिएको टिप घरमा गएपछि फोन गरेर फिर्ता माग्यो रे !
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Posted on 09-09-11 10:56
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And yes, this crap ruined my vacation back then...
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Posted on 09-09-11 11:00
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@ सोम ब्रो: यू आर राईट स्तुपिड ह्रितिक रोशन रुइनद योर वकेशन, यू शुद हाभ बरनत तइयर तू
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Posted on 09-09-11 11:07
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@GT,
दियेको टिप्स फिर्ता मागेको सुन्दा चही निकै हासो उठ्यो !
GT bro ले भने जस्तै सबै मिलेर सहुजीलाई सम्झौनु पर्यो उन्को रेस्टुराँको नाम्ले साफ साफ के भन्छ भने नेपाल भारतको सिमानामा पर्छ । उनलाई धेरै ग्राहक चाहियो भन्दैमा नेपाल लाई भारतको प्रान्त बनाउन पाइदैन । सित्तैमा खाना पाइयो भन्दैमा चुप्चाप सहुजीको भजन गाउनु पर्छ भन्ने पनि हैन
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my speculation was not based on 30000000 Nepali but personally knowing 5 Nepali restaurant owners around, Boulder, Denver, westminister area for living in this area for last 7 years. and considering there are like 8 Nepali restaurantd around here it is is a very valid analysis. but again i did not say i knew the owner and my statements were not directly directed to him, so no defense needed here.
ok if you insist so much i will stop by and personally talk to the wner sometimes, don't worry i will be respectful and non aggressive... i really hope this is not the owner whose last name starts with B, cuz i know a restaurant owner whose last name starts with B and he's a big time [Disallowed String for - use of word not allowed] hunter in colfax area and manupulates inncent Nepalis in his restaurant like slaves and i will have no respect and patience to meet him face to face, so let's not even bother if that is the case..
anyways what are your points here besides coming and telling us he's innocent and simple?
is he admitting that the error in name is his lack of understanding of English? is he even admitting that the name is an error, or is he firm on the matter that he has made no mistakes?
pl let him know thalt we don't hate him or anything, we're merely making a suggestion. i would not drink chai or have even that complementary papad at his restaurant because i don't want to support a restaurant that is offensive oto my country's identity. plus, like someone said if i want indian food i would rather go to true indian restaurants such as royal india, star or india, etc etc around here.. as i know very well Nepali and indian food are different , maybe not for outsiders but as a Nepaliour it is for me.
i would like to focus your's and your's simple friend's attention to the decision made by sports authority about their sign when they had red color that went against the values of broncos in the area. they were smart enough to admit and correct the mistake rather than acting jerks about it , or trying to have a spokes person who tries to defend them innocent or simple , per say.
this is all personal opinion, i have no hateful sentiments towards the name or the restaurant , it's owner or the restaurant itself. I wish them all the best and pray to god that they'll realize and correct the mistake soon rather than defending it with being simple and innocent.
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PaulinaDidi
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I think Nepal's India Oven would be better than India's Nepal Oven :)!
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I don's see a difference between Didipaulina and Paulinadidi...
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Yo dhoti ko geda khayera danga parne pakhandi nepali haru kina bolchhan badhi? mukh mai dhoti ko geda bhaye pachhi timi haru le bhukeko prasta pani suninna raichha. Tyo owner lai Indian restaurant chalauna mann bhaye India's oven bhane bhaigo. Tyasko punani chyattiyera ho tyasle nepal haleko? Chaure bhanne nepali nai haina jasto chha. Ta gay hos ani talai hairy indian le danaadan haneko mann parchha bhane jaa gadhaa kunai dhoti site maa. Yo dhoti haru ko advocate nepali haru ko ghichro chinalnai parchha. tyo musalte haru le khasi kateko dekhya chhau [Disallowed String for - use not allowed] kukur haru. Ani colorado ko manchhe haru le bhandinu tyo owner lai, gadhaa le grammatic error nai gareko ho bhane tyasko board change garne paisa mai diunla. haina jani bujhi tyahi naam rakheko ho bhane chahin tyasko butt hole maa chicken karahi extra spicy haldinu. Randi ko chhoro kunai din nepal gaye chha bhane Dhoti's Nepali Kutta bhanera tattoo haldinu parchha.
Yo jaanthi Pwalnabhaadidi kina jpt bolchhe feri! Tyo structure nai namilne naam gulaa khana yata utaa batariraa?
America aayerani ajhai dhoti khanai khanu parne, dhoti kai gun gaan garnu parne janthaa haru kina aaunchhan yahan? utai UP gaye bhaigo, ani tinkaa diidi bbahini lai ni bombay teerai pathaye bhaigo. mai gayera tinko pooti chyattidiunla. Yo [Disallowed String for - use not allowed] gas station maa kaam garera dhoti ko muni life bitaune nepali le ta suicide gare hunchha. thuyya [Disallowed String for - use not allowed] kukur haru. timi kukur haru lai ta deport nai gareko thik. yo illegal kaam garne ajha tyas maathi dhoti ko maa garne khaate nepali haru lai DHS maa report gardinu parchha.
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